July 13, 2018
Discussing leadership turnover with Joel and Carole
In this episode, hosts Joel and Carole discuss the structural and cultural issues that have led to more school leadership turnover and the cost it has on our schools and students. The conversation comes as school districts are wrapping up their hiring season.
Joel and Carole say superintendents now only stay in place for an average of less than three years, and there also is much principal turnover as well. This doesn’t bode well for the future of public education.
Administrators are dealing with more responsibility than ever, as they’re coming in well before the school day starts and attending events into the evening hours. School leadership is wearing a lot of hats.
“That is a concern I have, when I look at that high school principal job, I think the expectations are extraordinary, so I just don’t have an answer for that,” Carole says.
Joel talks about how his school district was fortunate to have a leader in place for nine years. Joel and Carole say wealthy schools are able to pay to lure away top administrators and teachers, and that lower income and rural districts lose out. Burnout happens even in the wealthy districts, though. Carole says there’s a fallacy that if people love the district they will stay.
Hiring local talent is one way to combat the problem. Often the best candidates for school leadership positions are from the community but spent time elsewhere—which leads to fresh ideas.
“I think it’s what every district should aspire to,” Carole says. “Because if you’re growing your own leaders top to bottom as an organization, you’re effective and you’re doing your job.”
Unfortunately too often internal candidates are passed over, which can lead to more leadership turnover in schools.
“We think the grass is greener somewhere else, and want some newer, fresher ideas,” Carole says. “And I think that’s a shame.”
It takes courage from the board to hire someone from within because they may have had to made unpopular decisions in the past.
“The pool for administrators is obviously getting smaller and smaller because a lot of people just don’t want the top job,” Joel says. “Why would I want to be a superintendent when I could be an assistant superintendent for curriculum, or assistant superintendent for HR, and I’m not calling all the shots and don’t have to be at every single event.”
Joel and Carole talk about what teachers, parents and community members should do when new school leadership does come aboard. It’s about letting them know they have someone to count on, and putting aside your own personal agendas.
“When a new leader comes on everybody wants their ear,” Carole says. “Communicate to that person, what are your goals and what do you need to accomplish and how can I be helpful with that.”
Joel talks about alternative ways to fix the leadership turnover problem, like paying for the college tuition of homegrown talent.
“Turnover is as high as it’s ever been,” Joel says. “That is a trend that’s going to continue until someone gets creative.”
Read the full We Love Schools podcast episode about leadership turnover in schools.
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